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reco2k
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28-12-2019, 02:22 AM
#1
Hi all

Sorry i havent been online lately been going through a messy break up. Hopefully be in a position to purchase a new car in the near future will have a budget of upto 2k and found a few is300's for that money around. Just wantes to know what they are like for tuning how easy are they to tune compared to the 200 and what is the speed difference like between them? Also are things like suspension interchangable between the 200 and 300?

Thanks all

Ross
reco2k
28-12-2019, 02:22 AM #1

Hi all

Sorry i havent been online lately been going through a messy break up. Hopefully be in a position to purchase a new car in the near future will have a budget of upto 2k and found a few is300's for that money around. Just wantes to know what they are like for tuning how easy are they to tune compared to the 200 and what is the speed difference like between them? Also are things like suspension interchangable between the 200 and 300?

Thanks all

Ross

el_bandido
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2,757
28-12-2019, 02:42 AM
#2
Coilovers, roll bars etc are all exactly the same as the IS200 for aftermarket. Rear diff is different.

Tuning is much easier than the 1gfe as there are loads of 2J parts available and going NA-T is much easier and you will get much better results.

Glad to see you back on here mate, drop me a PM if you need to vent!
el_bandido
28-12-2019, 02:42 AM #2

Coilovers, roll bars etc are all exactly the same as the IS200 for aftermarket. Rear diff is different.

Tuning is much easier than the 1gfe as there are loads of 2J parts available and going NA-T is much easier and you will get much better results.

Glad to see you back on here mate, drop me a PM if you need to vent!

FirebirdPhil
Posting Freak
7,101
28-12-2019, 03:10 AM
#3
IS300 is a different animal to the IS200 - far better to drive because of the extra power, the rest is the same. The auto box is easy to extract the best from, I rarely bother with pwr or manual mode just not needed in normal everyday driving. They do like a drop of fuel though so if your bothered about that don't go for one lol.

To put serious power down a re-built gearbox, would be needed at some point.

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FirebirdPhil
28-12-2019, 03:10 AM #3

IS300 is a different animal to the IS200 - far better to drive because of the extra power, the rest is the same. The auto box is easy to extract the best from, I rarely bother with pwr or manual mode just not needed in normal everyday driving. They do like a drop of fuel though so if your bothered about that don't go for one lol.

To put serious power down a re-built gearbox, would be needed at some point.


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

Chris0121
Posting Freak
1,295
28-12-2019, 03:10 AM
#4
I just fitted some Meister r's to mine and its so much better mate not too hard to work on either and yh tuning wise its all about the na-t conversions just gotta find a kit cheap enough or make one yourself

So your tuckin 15's, that's cute but come back to me when you get some proper size wheels
Chris0121
28-12-2019, 03:10 AM #4

I just fitted some Meister r's to mine and its so much better mate not too hard to work on either and yh tuning wise its all about the na-t conversions just gotta find a kit cheap enough or make one yourself


So your tuckin 15's, that's cute but come back to me when you get some proper size wheels

FirebirdPhil
Posting Freak
7,101
28-12-2019, 03:12 AM
#5
I think its just the Exhaust manifold that won't fit the IS300 bay, the Supra kits should all fit apart from the mani????

"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
28-12-2019, 03:12 AM #5

I think its just the Exhaust manifold that won't fit the IS300 bay, the Supra kits should all fit apart from the mani????


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

el_bandido
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2,757
28-12-2019, 03:33 AM
#6
There are single turbo manifolds available for the IS300 from the states.

This kit: http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/item.aspx?id=10

is an idea of what you can do if you want to spend ridiculous amounts of money.
el_bandido
28-12-2019, 03:33 AM #6

There are single turbo manifolds available for the IS300 from the states.

This kit: http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/item.aspx?id=10

is an idea of what you can do if you want to spend ridiculous amounts of money.

reco2k
Senior Member
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28-12-2019, 08:14 AM
#7
Thanks for the info, not too bothered about economy dont have to do many miles anymore whats average on them? First things will be full coilovers and full exhaust system then probably a manual conversion depending how i like the auto and definitely going turbo. Does anyone know how compatible the internals from the gte engines are?

Ross
reco2k
28-12-2019, 08:14 AM #7

Thanks for the info, not too bothered about economy dont have to do many miles anymore whats average on them? First things will be full coilovers and full exhaust system then probably a manual conversion depending how i like the auto and definitely going turbo. Does anyone know how compatible the internals from the gte engines are?

Ross

el_bandido
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28-12-2019, 08:47 AM
#8
GTE has oil squirters GE does not
GTE has oil feed for Turbo
GTE and GE heads are different with different exhaust and intake ports with different exhaust & intake manifolds
GTE has different pistons, rings, rods, bearings (though I think they are interchangeable with the GE in terms of fit).
GTE and GE do no share the same headgaskets

Have a look on http://www.clubna-t.com/
el_bandido
28-12-2019, 08:47 AM #8

GTE has oil squirters GE does not
GTE has oil feed for Turbo
GTE and GE heads are different with different exhaust and intake ports with different exhaust & intake manifolds
GTE has different pistons, rings, rods, bearings (though I think they are interchangeable with the GE in terms of fit).
GTE and GE do no share the same headgaskets

Have a look on http://www.clubna-t.com/

is300_dino
Posting Freak
3,556
28-12-2019, 08:49 AM
#9
the gte Internals are alot stronger and can be dropped in easily, the bottom end is 98% identical apart from some oil feed for the gte's turbos. pretty much everything from a gte fits the ge version Smile the main difference between the engines are the head and vvti system all valves etc are the same though.

koss i thought the head gaskets were the same?????
Edited 07-02-2013, 06:25 PM by is300_dino.

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is300_dino
28-12-2019, 08:49 AM #9

the gte Internals are alot stronger and can be dropped in easily, the bottom end is 98% identical apart from some oil feed for the gte's turbos. pretty much everything from a gte fits the ge version Smile the main difference between the engines are the head and vvti system all valves etc are the same though.

koss i thought the head gaskets were the same?????


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el_bandido
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28-12-2019, 09:07 AM
#10
Dino - don't think the vvti GTE and GE head gaskets are the same, the GTE is thicker and I think there are slightly different holes because of how different the head is. I've got the info stored in one of the billion bookmarks I've got, so I'll dig it out when I've finished this friggin uni assignment. From memory, it's something to do with the oil squirters in the GTE piston arrangement. I'm quite happy to be wrong about that though.

Edit: Injectors are also smaller on the GE obviously.

edit 2: is it feasible to put a 1jz-GTE vvti head on a GE block if the manifolds are going to be custom anyway? I've seen the 1j-gte vvti running on IS300 standard ECU and a piggyback for fuel trim. This might be an option.

edit 3: Looks like the GTE head gasket will fit the GE head if they are both vvti models. Not a concrete answer but from what I can scrape from the MKIV forums it's a straight swap.
Edited 07-02-2013, 07:01 PM by el_bandido.
el_bandido
28-12-2019, 09:07 AM #10

Dino - don't think the vvti GTE and GE head gaskets are the same, the GTE is thicker and I think there are slightly different holes because of how different the head is. I've got the info stored in one of the billion bookmarks I've got, so I'll dig it out when I've finished this friggin uni assignment. From memory, it's something to do with the oil squirters in the GTE piston arrangement. I'm quite happy to be wrong about that though.

Edit: Injectors are also smaller on the GE obviously.

edit 2: is it feasible to put a 1jz-GTE vvti head on a GE block if the manifolds are going to be custom anyway? I've seen the 1j-gte vvti running on IS300 standard ECU and a piggyback for fuel trim. This might be an option.

edit 3: Looks like the GTE head gasket will fit the GE head if they are both vvti models. Not a concrete answer but from what I can scrape from the MKIV forums it's a straight swap.

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