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Best wax to use, tips needed

Best wax to use, tips needed

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E55EX_RACER
Senior Member
379
30-01-2018, 12:42 PM
#31
To get a car shiny 90% of the work is in the preparation of the paint, i.e claying, polishing, pre wax cleaner. Wax only offers protection and doesn't make THAT much difference to the overall finish.

I'm assuming you're planning on polishing by hand? To get any decent shine you ideally need a machine as it will take a very long time. If you are doing it by hand then good old SRP will probably be best for you, followed with EGP and then maybe a wax on top...collinite or AG HD wax would be ideal.

There are loads of online detailing shops that sell what you need and polished bliss have started doing free delivery on all orders now matter how small! Others such as Rubbish Boys do free delivery on orders over £29.50, which isn't hard to do.

For the clay I would go with Bilt Hamber Soft as you only need water as a lube. If you don't want to use just water then a shampoo mix will be good enough.

karlp Also how hard should I work the polish/wax into the car?

I've always been told to apply a layer at a time in long horizontal movements, never swirls as this will cause hazing and swirl marks, then allow to haze then buff off.

Polish you need to work into the paint, small sections at a time using reasonable pressure. Wiping it on and off again won't really achieve much and remember that less is more. Do not cake it on thick, anything you have to buff off is wasted product so the less residue the better.

You can apply it how you want, straight lines or circles. Swirls are actually micro scratches in the paint but the human eye sees them as circles. Use whatever technique you're happy with.

SRP if you use this has fillers so will mask the swirls rather than remove so do make sure you wax afterwards to lock the finish in. Another good hand polish would also be G|Techniq P1. I got a bottle of this today and it's suppose to be very easy to use by hand.

When waxing you can again apply this in lines or circles. Do a panel at a time and swipe a finger through the wax to test it's ready for buffing. If it comes off clean then it's ready. If using collinite do not leave it for more than 5 - 10 minutes especially in warm/hot weather as it will set like concrete!

Your microfibre towels and applicators are also important, don't use an old rag or bath towel etc! When washing don't apply any pressure, just use the weight of the wash mitt or sponge (I use a grout one) and go over the panel twice if needed.

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E55EX_RACER
30-01-2018, 12:42 PM #31

To get a car shiny 90% of the work is in the preparation of the paint, i.e claying, polishing, pre wax cleaner. Wax only offers protection and doesn't make THAT much difference to the overall finish.

I'm assuming you're planning on polishing by hand? To get any decent shine you ideally need a machine as it will take a very long time. If you are doing it by hand then good old SRP will probably be best for you, followed with EGP and then maybe a wax on top...collinite or AG HD wax would be ideal.

There are loads of online detailing shops that sell what you need and polished bliss have started doing free delivery on all orders now matter how small! Others such as Rubbish Boys do free delivery on orders over £29.50, which isn't hard to do.

For the clay I would go with Bilt Hamber Soft as you only need water as a lube. If you don't want to use just water then a shampoo mix will be good enough.

karlp Also how hard should I work the polish/wax into the car?

I've always been told to apply a layer at a time in long horizontal movements, never swirls as this will cause hazing and swirl marks, then allow to haze then buff off.

Polish you need to work into the paint, small sections at a time using reasonable pressure. Wiping it on and off again won't really achieve much and remember that less is more. Do not cake it on thick, anything you have to buff off is wasted product so the less residue the better.

You can apply it how you want, straight lines or circles. Swirls are actually micro scratches in the paint but the human eye sees them as circles. Use whatever technique you're happy with.

SRP if you use this has fillers so will mask the swirls rather than remove so do make sure you wax afterwards to lock the finish in. Another good hand polish would also be G|Techniq P1. I got a bottle of this today and it's suppose to be very easy to use by hand.

When waxing you can again apply this in lines or circles. Do a panel at a time and swipe a finger through the wax to test it's ready for buffing. If it comes off clean then it's ready. If using collinite do not leave it for more than 5 - 10 minutes especially in warm/hot weather as it will set like concrete!

Your microfibre towels and applicators are also important, don't use an old rag or bath towel etc! When washing don't apply any pressure, just use the weight of the wash mitt or sponge (I use a grout one) and go over the panel twice if needed.


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E55EX_RACER
Senior Member
379
30-01-2018, 12:56 PM
#32
This video demonstrates just how good P1 is by hand. You can see how long he spends on that little section though. To do the whole car you will need a day or 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u-QTCbOUW4

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E55EX_RACER
30-01-2018, 12:56 PM #32

This video demonstrates just how good P1 is by hand. You can see how long he spends on that little section though. To do the whole car you will need a day or 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u-QTCbOUW4


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Phil01
Posting Freak
2,004
31-01-2018, 12:12 AM
#33
I personally find a shampoo is a shampoo and any will do, its the work after that gives results.
Phil01
31-01-2018, 12:12 AM #33

I personally find a shampoo is a shampoo and any will do, its the work after that gives results.

karlp
Senior Member
492
31-01-2018, 05:23 AM
#34
Are snow lance foam thingys worth it??
Simply bolt onto your pressure washer then away you go?
karlp
31-01-2018, 05:23 AM #34

Are snow lance foam thingys worth it??
Simply bolt onto your pressure washer then away you go?

FirebirdPhil
Posting Freak
7,101
31-01-2018, 05:28 AM
#35
they are fro "pre" washing to help loosen off dirt etc so you don;t have loose bits of dirt on your paint when washing the car. Very useful in reducing paint damage when washing.

"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
31-01-2018, 05:28 AM #35

they are fro "pre" washing to help loosen off dirt etc so you don;t have loose bits of dirt on your paint when washing the car. Very useful in reducing paint damage when washing.


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

karlp
Senior Member
492
31-01-2018, 05:35 AM
#36
at £50-£60 reckon there worth it?
Do they make much of a difference to just washing your car twice with a decent shampoo before detailing?
karlp
31-01-2018, 05:35 AM #36

at £50-£60 reckon there worth it?
Do they make much of a difference to just washing your car twice with a decent shampoo before detailing?

FirebirdPhil
Posting Freak
7,101
31-01-2018, 05:38 AM
#37
I didn't bother personally, but if you have a spare £50 lying about kicking its heels - and you don't want to send it to me then yes its a good investment...............

"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
31-01-2018, 05:38 AM #37

I didn't bother personally, but if you have a spare £50 lying about kicking its heels - and you don't want to send it to me then yes its a good investment...............


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

karlp
Senior Member
492
31-01-2018, 05:40 AM
#38
ha thanks pal
karlp
31-01-2018, 05:40 AM #38

ha thanks pal

bigdave1701
Member
55
31-01-2018, 12:07 PM
#39
For a top up of shine i use Fast Wax after every wash help keeps the car clean looks great very easy to apply and remove if you want to refresh your paint use coloured tcut to restore colour
bigdave1701
31-01-2018, 12:07 PM #39

For a top up of shine i use Fast Wax after every wash help keeps the car clean looks great very easy to apply and remove if you want to refresh your paint use coloured tcut to restore colour

Lexusboy
Posting Freak
9,267
02-02-2018, 02:18 AM
#40
BigDave has a point imo I some times use a magic colour restorer it work very well on red blue black cars its worth adding between waxing of your car.
Lexusboy
02-02-2018, 02:18 AM #40

BigDave has a point imo I some times use a magic colour restorer it work very well on red blue black cars its worth adding between waxing of your car.

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